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调高灵还是调低灵?

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发表于 2007-3-9 15:47:00 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
<p><font size="2"><strong>——作为“手竿调灵与调顿 ”一文的回帖</strong></font></p><p><font size="3">在分析“调高灵”还是“调低灵”之前,</font><font size="3">首先问个问题:小漂灵还是大漂灵?</font></p><p><font size="3">我相信绝大多数钓友一定都说小漂灵!</font><font size="3">那么,小漂灵的原理是什么呢?是小漂钓组的入水体积小、阻力小,对微小外力反应敏感,容易启动!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></p><p><font size="3">大漂则相反。外力不够难以启动(大漂容易丢小口就这道理,与小船比大船颠簸一样的道理)!而一旦动起来,大漂钓组惯性大(自重大)——但前提是 外力也得大!</font></p><p><font size="3">拿大棚轻钩轻饵举个例,大家用小漂细线是为了提高灵敏度对吧(千方百计给钓组减肥瘦身)?假设同样的“调几钓几”,调高和调低,哪个入水体积更小更容易动呢?一目了然,是“调高”钓组的入水体积小,动作多(与小船空载颠簸,满载平稳一个道理)......但是:浮漂不是说调得越高就越好,这问题是另一码,不在这说了......</font></p><p><font size="3">如果即认同小漂细线灵,同时又说调低灵,在灵钝概念上您就自相矛盾了!这是观念上的混淆!&nbsp; 所以才引发那么多争议和困惑.....</font></p><p><font size="3"><strong>灵敏度和惯性力混淆了!&nbsp; </strong>那个重锤敲漂实验,外力是人为且足够大的,它测出的不是灵敏度,而是惯性幅度。</font></p>
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发表于 2007-3-9 16:50:00 | 只看该作者
<p>学习</p><p>问个问题: 比如我们用1号小漂调4钓2好使,那换一个5号大漂调6~7钓2 也同样灵敏?</p>
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-3-12 09:01:00 | 只看该作者
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>净潭使者</i>在2007-3-9 16:50:00的发言:</b><br/><p>学习</p><p>问个问题: 比如我们用1号小漂调4钓2好使,那换一个5号大漂调6~7钓2 也同样灵敏?</p></div><p></p>老弟问这问题没给其它条件!除非大生口鱼情,不然你说的这两种配组和调钓 差异太大了!
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-3-14 15:36:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2007-3-15 14:20:00 | 只看该作者
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">晕车兄说得对,惯性只是灵敏度构成的一部分而已,所以试图用惯性来解释灵钝,必会有缺角的,诚如所说,光对小标与大标谁灵敏的认知,可能就会出现截然不同的结果来。</span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">我细看原帖文后,倒对原文中「对几十种浮标进行了数百次的测试</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">…</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」的说法有点看法,不敢说它是做白工或走偏了,只能说「在某些天候、鱼情下」,「调低」的确会比较容易上鱼或搭配起来较顺手</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">…</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">但这未必表示可以普遍套用,或类推所有鱼情。例如,南国的罗非与鲫鱼,其鱼口好坏差异极大,可用调钓的间距相对也大,很少固定在「空钩水平」附近,所以很难认同「调低灵」的说法。古人用「以管窥天」来形容偏颇之见,或许,是贬抑过头了,但却能直指问题的核心。我也曾「自制浮标近千支」,材质从芦苇、马尔沙木、通草都有,平均每支浮标实钓测试约</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">小时,好一点的,甚至会针对不同鱼种、钓场、天候等反复测之,测试又何止</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">数百次</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">而已</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">…</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">仍不敢据以推翻传统「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」的说法,遑论其它!个人在作钓时,一场下来更换</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">、</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">支标是常态,反复交叉比对后,事实上,结果反更映证传统说法的正确性。或许,当年在对「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」作解说时,不同的时空背景下,有人可能会添些不成熟的油醋,不过,这些「此一时彼一时」的赘述杂陈,仍无法抹煞「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」在老一辈的钓鱼人口耳相传时,所验证过的实用与正确性。一个「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」的理论,绝不是一人一时之说,实际上是经千锤百炼演化而来的,其试炼度,岂止千万次?或许,连帮它命名者,也无法解释清楚它的原理吧?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">…</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">也就是说,如果,你只抓住了后人的添足部分,而随之钻入枝节末尾处起舞,未能窥其原貌真意,有误解与偏见,乃意料中事。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">很多人推论灵钝,喜欢在标尾的「下粗上细」上做工夫,往往造成「</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">Top</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">尾的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">目之差」即可决定灵钝的走向,这正是钻牛脚尖的最好例子。现在每支浮标</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">Top</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">尾的粗细,不管软硬尾,其制作愈来愈精细、差异愈来愈小</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">甚至大号标与小标所用的规格相同</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">,想靠其推论出「灵与钝」,可作文章的空间实所剩无几了。何况,标尾再粗,会有标体、标型粗吗?光看潜舰的出水部分来论其</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">灵与钝</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">,其实是不够的。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">仔细观察可以发现,「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」的口诀,直到今日,都与「简单钓鱼」的直观概念相吻合。调的目数高,鱼讯多而活泼,所以称之「灵」;调的目数低,鱼讯少慢而不活跃,所以称之「钝」</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">…</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">而钓目,则反向推论之,因这二者对「钓组离底的作用方向」刚好相反的关系</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">…</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">稍为观想一下水底状态,即可明白。作钓时,该采偏灵或该偏钝</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">或说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">离底还是拖底</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”)</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">,随个人经验和认知而定,其可调钓之范围宽广的很,绝不是只能「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」而已。有人故意把「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」曲解成只限「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">目钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">目」一种玩法,这是错误的,难道以前的钓鱼人只懂一种固定调法吗?当然不是了,只不过,此法会建议新手,在未深入了解前,只要照章的调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">,相当程度可以符合今日一般鱼情的需要,方便入门也。当然,日后想要进步,自然应去深入了解其背后的调钓视野,此不待言。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">个人建议新手,千万不要玩「一支十目的浮标,就有十个级别的临界点和十个级别的灵与钝」的游戏,而认为「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">、调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">、调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">、调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">5…</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">都是不灵不钝」,然后整天在那一大堆的灵钝区间中打转,除累死一堆脑细包外,对实钓一点帮助都没有。例如,当人家问你:都是不灵不钝,那「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」与「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」鱼讯有一样吗?我今天该用那一个</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">灵钝区间</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">比较好?什幺是「虚灵和实灵」?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">……</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">结果,除吱唔外,很难解释出令人信服的道理来,这样,又怎能</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">简单钓鱼</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">呢?这种说法,把原本简单的调钓搞复杂了不要紧,连其中对「调目与钓目」的推理逻辑,也无法前后一致或自圆其说,让稍有逻辑概念者,一戳即破。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">总之,想简单钓鱼者,自行斟酌吧</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">…</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">老钓鱼人的经验,或许简单,但绝对实用</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">…</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">」,就是他们经验累积的代名词。这名词,出自何处或何人之手并不重要,重要的是,它背后的意义和传承精神。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">我日前曾在老鬼网,针对「调高钝、钓高也钝」的说法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">调高目就调钝了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">…</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">坠到底或者双子弦弯曲,就是钓钝</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">,提出了质疑,原回帖摘录如下,谨请参考<span style="COLOR: blue;">:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">发表于</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"> 2007-3-13 16:31&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">没有错,在实钓过程中,如果「坠到底或者双子线弯曲」的话,的确会造成鱼讯反应的「迟缓」些,往往抓住的已是「抬头或转身鱼讯」了…关于这点,我想,应该没有人会怀疑吧?也就是说,一般人所谓的「钝」,其实本意指的就是「鱼讯无法实时反应或失真了」,而「坠到底或子线过于弯曲」正式典型的例子,「钓目高」是其发生的原因之一…这种因钓组拖底而鱼讯反应慢的情景,称之为「钝」,应是合乎情理的,相信也没人会否认。但是,若撇开「钓目」只看「调目」,在「调目高」时,上牵力大,实际上反而会让「坠更离底」或「子线更绷紧」,鱼讯或外力的作用更能即时反应出来,与「钓目高」的结果相反,以解释「钓目」的逻辑推之,则应是「灵」才对,何「钝」之有呢?且硬说是「钝」,也与一般常人的认知大不相同!</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">解释「钓钝」的思维,却无法圆说「调钝」的逻辑,有必要如此玩下去吗?以「子线弯曲」度为准,其实调目与钓目的高低,影响的方向刚好是”相反”的,此在观想钓组在水底的变化情形后,即可知之,无需多言矣。换句话说,如果「钓目高为钝」是真,则「调目高为钝」必不成立;如果「调目高为钝」成立,则「钓目高为钝」必不为真。这是一个「逻辑真伪相冲突」的简单辩证问题,到目前为止,我都不明白为何还有人搞不清楚?难道搞偶像崇拜,真会使人迷思吗?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">「调目」与「钓目」都是调整钓组残存之一个环结,在垂钓中之作用密不可分,乃一体之二面,实务上很难分开而单论之,因此其解释逻辑,根本不能背道而驰或南辕北辙,否则乱矣。况且,影响钓组调钓的因素很多,并不止于调目或钓目而已,如果想创新说…当然没人敢说不行,不过,要请你把饵重、钩重、钩距、线径、水深…等其它因素都含括进来,全部用「同一种逻辑」去解说才行。例如,认为「调高目为钝」者,在「同逻辑」之原则下,也麻烦你说:「钓目高为灵」、「大颗饵为灵」、「坠到底或子线弯曲」最灵…如此,才有资格称为『调低为灵』的创始者!否则,徒吹乱一池春水而已…</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">真的,不要再一面鼓吹「调低为灵」,一面又延用「钓目高为钝」或仍认为「坠到底或子线弯曲」是最钝的传统说法,因为这样子,连简单逻辑都说不通了,还玩什幺东东?倒不如学学那些避谈灵钝的骑墙派,搞个什幺「依鱼情调钓」或者「上鱼最灵说」算了,至少,这些都还是合情合理的实话呢!</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">至于楼主所说的「上推浮标」,其等于「钓高」的意思,也就是「愈高会让子线愈弯曲」,抓住的鱼讯必会迟缓些,但可让滑鱼较无戒心;「加铅」等于「调低」,实质上是将”上牵制力减弱”,所以不管鱼吸或撞线、水流等的下拉动作均易被放大,上浮的反弹动作反而不明显,整体感觉会是「前置讯号不多,有的话一定是”黑标”级的讯号了」,如此一来,假讯号必然较多,空竿率增加。因此,「加铅的程度」很重要,须视鱼种、鱼体、鱼口及天候水情而定,保持适当的「上牵制力」才是最佳的。而「钓高」,也须与所调目数搭配才行,例如「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">1</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">5</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">」与「调</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">4</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">5</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">」,二者拖底的程度并不相同、上牵制力也不同,所以光谈「钓</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">5</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">」…是没有意义的。个人的经验中,感觉「钓目」影响鱼的「吸口意愿」较多,「调目」则影响鱼吸入后的「吐口与否」较大,而二者的组合是否合理,又会影响讯号的强弱…所以如何搭配,无标准答案,端赖经验了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">…</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman"><p></p></font></span></p>
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发表于 2007-3-15 15:56:00 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-3-16 10:39:00 | 只看该作者
<p><font size="3">感谢[运哥]兄弟来京钓帮衬愚兄的帖子!针对由来已久的灵钝纷争问题,兄弟的一番陈述,道理深刻直击要害,对京钓许多重实战而又不乏智慧的有心人来说,意义非同一般!</font></p><p><font size="3">长时以来,因灵钝概念的混淆不一,让本来平静的一潭春水,鸭飞鹅跳,波澜不息,最终导致诺大一个中华钓坛,抵触情绪泛滥!许多人甚至到了“谈灵钝色变”,谈则抓狂的地步。这的确很不正常!徒让天下智人笑也!</font></p><p><font size="3">“逻辑性”,这词说得太对了!任何“理论”,经不住三两句逻辑推理(用中学知识就够了),便自相矛盾漏洞百出,那成什么理论?何况钓鱼人谁都不会只上学而不实践,最终都会明白滴``</font></p><p><font size="3">本来简单钓鱼!“状态”二字,足以概括调钓之“灵钝”本质,“调高灵、钓低灵”与状态完美合拍!然后随鱼情水情慢慢体验浮漂和钓组上的变化,最终积成经验!</font></p><p><font size="3">存在即合理!当年7目老达摩的“调4钓2”,是经台湾无数钓鱼人长期实践之经典总结!既是池钓入门招式,又潜含深刻哲理其中!若凭一时小聪明,蔑视并歪解前人智慧,最终必有报果!</font></p>
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发表于 2007-3-17 08:00:00 | 只看该作者
<p><font size="5">看晕了!</font></p><p><font size="5">要我说,哪个吃铅小哪个灵!</font></p>
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