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标题: [讨论]我的另类看法[一] [打印本页]
作者: 刀锋 时间: 2007-7-16 01:14
标题: [讨论]我的另类看法[一]
<font face="宋体" size="7">一般我只有机会玩混坑</font><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">纯鲤鱼不玩</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">纯鲫鱼附近没有</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">一</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">;</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">用竿</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">一般我选用<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">超硬调</b><chmetcnv wst="on" tcsc="1" numbertype="3" negative="False" hasspace="False" sourcevalue="3" unitname="米"></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv>三米<chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv>六或<chmetcnv wst="on" tcsc="1" numbertype="3" negative="False" hasspace="False" sourcevalue="3" unitname="米"></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv>三米<chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv><chmetcnv></chmetcnv>九</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">好处不用说</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">我来讲别人认为的坏处我怎样克服</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">因为很多人认为硬竿爱跑鱼</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">其实不然</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">因为软竿也总有弯到和硬竿一样硬的程度</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">该跑一样跑</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">除非加长竿长</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">，</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">增大鱼的控制范围</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">[</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">或叫做鱼的活动范围</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">]</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">以</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">消耗它的体力</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">，跑鱼的主要原因我认为不光是竿的软硬更主要是长短，海竿和长竿的不爱跑鱼就能说明</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">二：</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">用线</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">我选用零点八主线</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">不超过零点六子线</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">用线和大票的大坠</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">人们也有误区</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">大家认为细线切水快,大坠下沉快</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">，我认为</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">都是错误的</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">因为主线和坠的密度都比水大</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">所以它们下沉都是靠重力</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">[</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">地球的吸引</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">]自重.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">阻力都是同种介质水产生的</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">加里略做的世界闻名的实验两个铁球同时落地</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">大小两个同种密度的铁球在同种阻力介质</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">[</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">空气</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">]</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">中从同种高度自由下落</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">它</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">们同时落地</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">否定了亚里士多德上百年人们认为正确的,没有科学根据的理论[大铁球比小铁球下降快]</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">如果我们每次抛竿使坠落水之前的高度相同，那么大小坠落入水底的速度是相同的。同理如果我们常用的主线是密度大于水,那么它们入水的速度也应该一样.选细线是因细线相对粗线台钓时动作明显.细线动作明显不光是因为细。更主要原因是同种厂家出的同种牌子的线，细比粗应该软，软是动作明显的最主要原因，所以我钓混坑用线首先选软,因为要想通杀势必线径要粗一些.所以我选用的是零点八柔调子的冲做主线.以后在用漂中我再讲我认为的为何出现有力一顿和线的关系。</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH;"><p></p></span><br/> <p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 14pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: none;"><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;"> </span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;"><br/> </span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">我用硬竿细线一旦上鲤鱼很少跑是这样做的</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">一</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">;</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">提竿刺鱼</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">一位大师说过只要一看这个人提竿就知道他会不会钓鱼</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">要想刺鱼轻快准</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">首先要把竿抛满抛直</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">非特定条件下越没有弯曲越对线保护更好</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">赶马车的鞭子梢用牛皮做的,一样能抽散开</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">因为马车手每次抽响鞭子</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;"><br/> </span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">都要使鞭梢抖成一个鞭花</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">[</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">明显的弯曲</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">].</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">很容易抽散开</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">但如果直接打在马屁股上</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">[</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">没有弯曲</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">]</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">到不容易坏</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">抛满抛直后对提竿钓鱼的人来说,产生的是固定的距离</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">对固定的距离人们才能更快的掌握它的力度而做到恰倒好处的刺鱼</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">如果用五牛顿的力恰好能刺透鱼的上堂</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">你每次都用明显大于它的力道刺</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">无疑对竿和线都有损耗从而减少它们的使用寿命</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">得不偿失</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">我经常说我的同伴提竿太猛不好，有伤竿伤线伤漂的隐患，他和我争论说每次跑鱼都不是一提切的，而是溜时切的，和提竿没有关系，我给他举例说：用斧子砍树，如果需五十次砍断，那么要先砍四十九次，才有最后的一斧使它断开.你那一猛提竿就是前几十次的砍.甚至是第四十九砍。</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">同时</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">提竿过猛</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">鱼的疼痛程度会加大</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">会</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">使它拼命挣扎加大它的逃跑几率</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">刺鱼</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">后</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">当感觉到鱼大[所谓的称鱼]<span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span>并猛力挣扎时</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH;">.</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-fareast-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">一定不要</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">向某些钓友说的别给它喘息的机会一气呵成直接拉过来抄鱼上岸，这种一气呵成的鱼你怎样溜它也跑不了，但是碰上一气呵不成的一定会跑的，首先不给它喘息的机会这句话就不对，喘息的引申意就是它很累了，喘息和呼吸的区别就是，喘息急促是缺氧的症状，呼吸是正常平稳的，你刚刺中的鱼它怎会喘息？二：溜鱼，溜鱼时首先要让它出窝子后尽量向自己竿尖伸直的距离位置带，最好让它擦着底面跑累了，</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH;">[</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">因为擦着底面它只有平行跑不会上下窜动增加逃跑几率，同时遛鱼时必须恰倒好处的利用手臂跟随动作缓解鱼的突然猛冲，</span><span lang="ZH" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ZH;">]</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: ZH; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial;">再让它第一次出水，为何有第一次，因为它虽然很累了但一出水刹那受到新异刺激后它会再做垂死挣扎的，此时一定要做好再溜准备，所以才有第二甚至第三次出水，我小的时候用气枪打一种鼠，就是最喜欢吃核桃的一种浑身黑灰色鼠，每次发现它，总免不了要逃进洞里，我就在洞外隐藏等一会儿它就出来，可是我发现只要我穿颜色稍鲜艳的衣服，它立刻就会回头入洞，我不知道鱼是不是近视到看不见穿着红色大氅的我们，而对它产生新异刺激。反正我是尽量不穿鲜艳的衣服钓鱼。请读者不要嫌我烦，因为是硬竿细线能快速钓鲫鱼同时又想钓到鲤鱼不跑才有此烦琐.我认为钓鱼是个很系统的,要求很高的运动，有一个环节不对你就要比别人少钓一些，几个环节下来鱼获就少多了。如果有兴趣请大家等着看我的下篇大家最有争议的用漂和食的另类看法.还有有人认为不太重要的钩,肯定有不对的地方请老师们指正,定当加以改正.使我前进.谢谢.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 26pt;"><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p><p></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p><p></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p><p></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p><p></p>
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作者: yefeng3861 时间: 2007-7-16 20:31
学习了，谢谢
作者: 刀锋 时间: 2007-7-17 10:03
<p></p><p> <font size="5">自己这两天总是在想.发现我分析问题还是不对,如果大坠拴细线,小坠拴粗线[同种铅同种线].那么大坠组合应快于小坠组合的入水速度.[按我的加里略说法应同步]原因是以上两种组合线的的下降已不是主要靠线的自重了,由于坠的密度明显大于线,所以此时组合下降主要靠坠的自重,而主要阻力则由线径大小决定了[因此时组合速度一定大于单纯线的速度,线的自重对下降速度的作用肯定没有阻力作用大.速度越快反作用力[阻力]越大].那么粗线径速度应小于小线径速度.虽然我明白了,但很不好表达.</font></p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-7-17 13:25:35编辑过]
作者: 上庄赛欧 时间: 2007-7-27 21:58
总结的好，学习！表扬！这就叫进步！
作者: 闲着没事 时间: 2008-2-24 00:33
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>daofeng</i>在2007-7-17 10:03:00的发言：</b><br/><p></p><p> <font size="5">自己这两天总是在想.发现我分析问题还是不对,如果大坠拴细线,小坠拴粗线[同种铅同种线].那么大坠组合应快于小坠组合的入水速度.[按我的加里略说法应同步]原因是以上两种组合线的的下降已不是主要靠线的自重了,由于坠的密度明显大于线,所以此时组合下降主要靠坠的自重,而主要阻力则由线径大小决定了[因此时组合速度一定大于单纯线的速度,线的自重对下降速度的作用肯定没有阻力作用大.速度越快反作用力[阻力]越大].那么粗线径速度应小于小线径速度.虽然我明白了,但很不好表达.</font></p><br/></div><p><font size="4">还有一点：即使使用同样粗的线，大坠也比小坠下落的快。因为大坠质量大，所受的重力就大，对水线的拉力就大，所以使水线切水快。此外，通过平时的垂钓经验，也能体会到这点。否则，浮漂还分大小号干啥。</font></p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-2-24 1:19:11编辑过]
作者: 刀锋 时间: 2008-2-24 08:59
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>闲着没事</i>在2008-2-24 0:33:00的发言：</b><br/><p><font size="4">还有一点：即使使用同样粗的线，大坠也比小坠下落的快。因为大坠质量大，所受的重力就大，对水线的拉力就大，所以使水线切水快。此外，通过平时的垂钓经验，也能体会到这点。否则，浮漂还分大小号干啥。</font></p><br/></div><p></p>学习了，谢谢。
作者: 晕车 时间: 2008-2-26 16:44
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>daofeng</i>在2007-7-17 10:03:00的发言：</b><br/><p></p><p> <font size="5">自己这两天总是在想.发现我分析问题还是不对,如果大坠拴细线,小坠拴粗线[同种铅同种线].那么大坠组合应快于小坠组合的入水速度.[按我的加里略说法应同步]原因是以上两种组合线的的下降已不是主要靠线的自重了,由于坠的密度明显大于线,所以此时组合下降主要靠坠的自重,而主要阻力则由线径大小决定了[因此时组合速度一定大于单纯线的速度,线的自重对下降速度的作用肯定没有阻力作用大.速度越快反作用力[阻力]越大].那么粗线径速度应小于小线径速度.虽然我明白了,但很不好表达.</font><br/></p></div><p>很难得楼主兄弟自己反思出了漏洞，</p><p><font size="5">加里略的实验是在真空环境下进行的，而水的阻力比空气要大很多倍。轻坠重坠钓组下沉快慢，取决于重力与阻力的比值。</font></p>
作者: 晕车 时间: 2008-2-26 16:46
其它方面总结得很实在，顶一下！
作者: 刀锋 时间: 2008-2-26 20:08
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>晕车</i>在2008-2-26 16:44:00的发言：</b><br/><p>很难得楼主兄弟自己反思出了漏洞，</p><p><font size="5">加里略的实验是在真空环境下进行的，而水的阻力比空气要大很多倍。轻坠重坠钓组下沉快慢，取决于重力与阻力的比值。</font></p></div><p>谢谢大哥的指导和鼓励，更谢谢您在素不相识的情况下指导我那次天成杯的线组，食谱。我知道您是谁了，在[垂钓]杂志2006第2、3期上出过文章。得到您的指导，真是受宠若惊。</p>
作者: 京西小王 时间: 2008-2-26 22:01
个人意见：竞技不敢说，但楼主肯定是黑坑高手。[em01][em01][em01]
作者: 刀锋 时间: 2008-2-26 22:27
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>京西小王</i>在2008-2-26 22:01:00的发言：</b><br/>个人意见：竞技不敢说，但楼主肯定是黑坑高手。[em01][em01][em01]</div><p></p> 技只竞过两次，而且之前从来没去过竞技坑，两次都是小汤山，400多人两次都是二百一二十名，最惨的是两次800人有400多抽中纪念奖。百分之60多的概率，我和一哥们两次都没中任何奖，[em01][em01][em01]。坑也黑不好，从不抢1、2、3-------号位，做哪也死不换地，换也是往没人的地换。[最看不上哪上鱼般箱子哪去的人]。食只用老鬼的两三种加鱼宝。竿子，中粮关了就没用过三米九以上的[旁边的用长的也不换-----懒]，从来不扎鱼，哪怕坑里就俩人，他那扎连了只要不是哥们决不过去。
作者: 瘾大获寡 时间: 2008-2-27 16:18
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>daofeng</i>在2007-7-17 10:03:00的发言：</b><br/><p></p><p> <font size="5">自己这两天总是在想.发现我分析问题还是不对,如果大坠拴细线,小坠拴粗线[同种铅同种线].那么大坠组合应快于小坠组合的入水速度.[按我的加里略说法应同步]原因是以上两种组合线的的下降已不是主要靠线的自重了,由于坠的密度明显大于线,所以此时组合下降主要靠坠的自重,而主要阻力则由线径大小决定了[因此时组合速度一定大于单纯线的速度,线的自重对下降速度的作用肯定没有阻力作用大.速度越快反作用力[阻力]越大].那么粗线径速度应小于小线径速度.虽然我明白了,但很不好表达.</font></p><br/></div><p></p>搂主明白了就好，钓饵下底的快慢其实与饵也有很大的关系，例如：同一块拉饵，拉和撮下底的速度就不同，在漂立直下沉时最为明显，再有手食的比重不同下降速度也不同。
作者: 京西老姚 时间: 2008-2-29 12:51
<p> <font size="4">首先声明对楼主没有恶意，只是讨论。</font></p><p><font size="4"> 个人愚见：</font></p><p><font size="4"> （1） 加里略的实验是同质量不同重量的两个物体在空气中同一高度的自由下落，重力和速度。没有其它的物质条件。</font></p><p><font size="4"> （2） 而我们是在钓鱼，所使用的钓具有：杆，线组，浮标，铅坠，子线和钩等。我们要手持钓杆挥臂把钓线组抛入水中再施以压力，包括牵引。使铅坠和钓饵在相对较短的时间内到达您所设定位置（水底）</font></p><p><font size="4"> （3） 同样使用大标大坠；小标小坠要到达您所设定位置（水底）还有其它方法也不可能是同一速度。</font></p><p><font size="4"> 因为（1）是在空气中物体在一定高度的自由下落；（2）和（3）不是自由下落，况且水是有很大的阻力。所以（1）不等于（2）和（3）它们是两个不同的物理基础和物理概念。</font></p><p><font size="4"> </font> <font size="4"> 愚见请您见谅指正</font></p><p><font size="4"> </font></p>
作者: 海老人 时间: 2008-3-18 19:08
原帖由 晕车 于 2008-2-26 16:44 发表 
QUOTE:以下是引用daofeng在2007-7-17 10:03:00的发言： 自己这两天总是在想.发现我分析问题还是不对,如果大坠拴细线,小坠拴粗线[同种铅同种线].那么大坠组合应快于小坠组合的入水速度.[按我的加里略说法应同步 ...
嗯,是得考虑水的阻力.在真空里就不一样了.
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